H.O.T Forever

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1. Nocturne Prince - August 16, 2009

Hahaha! Seriously they had no reason for hating H.O.T. C’mon!! I can’t even think a little how they could be hated. They don’t make any scandal or bad rumors.

But you know what, H.O.T doesn’t have many antis (at least for now-Do they have when they were still together?), and usually the people who said that are DBSG’s fans. So I think you know the reason, because they WANT DBSG as number one. They just see DBSG and they KNOW NOTHING abput Kpop~!

I’ve been supporting H.O.T for almost 9 years (and cmon I’m 23, am I old?) So, I’m really furious when DBSG’s fans insult H.O.T. REALLY MAD!!! H.O.T is IDOLS and LEGEND, YES they are. DBSG? I even can’t consider them as an IDOL yet. Seriously, it’s not that I hate them but I’m trying to be objective. (Infact, I was a fan of them).

It’s not just those newbie to Kpop who don’t know about H.O.T and praised DBSG like God (OMG~!), but can’t they think…

JunSu and JaeJoong are fanboy of H.O.T and it will always be like that. Do they think these 2 boys are happy when they insult their idol’s idol? Seriously!

It goes for SOME SuJu fans too~~

Done~! ^^

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2. kanahagino - August 16, 2009

Hm, well H.o.t members have some scandals and rumors (especially Woohyuk about avoiding military, when he was sick) or Heejun because of his music or Jaewon because of, I think you know the reason^^”. Tony with the Seeya member (Nam Gyu Ri) and Kangta, as funny as it may sound, with Vanness *just LMAO* XDD I wouldn’t even consider it as a scandal, but reporters can be funny too, I guess XDD Just because he said to Vanness “I love you” and “he’s my boyfriend” etc. *lol*
But these were stupid scandals (except Jaewons, he had it pretty bad I guess and Tony, his only scandal he ever had, but every celebrity has a scandal like that)
Because every rumor for Woohyuk was pretty childish and mean, in my opinion. Avoiding the military, because he needed an operation, come on -.-

Whatever: H.O.T members (just some members) are still one of the people who have most Antifans (I don’t know how it is this year, but Woohyuk and Tony had quite a lot, I think Jaewons should have increased too)
Ah~ I just remembered a comment from an DBSK fan (or was it a Suju fan?) who complained about the “Best Couple” List, when they saw Tony and Woohyuk on the 3rd place.
“Come on, they don’t exist anymore, why are they on the 3rd place?!” The same goes for the 1st place KyeSang and HoYoung from GOD (they had a gay scandal and DBSK fans who didn’t know anything about the history began bashing them) >-<
And wow, 9 years O_O *bows* I am 18, I'm not old either, but according to the comments Cassies are giving, I guess they consider teenagers as old, and they're mostly children? (No offend to the DBSK fans who commented to this blog, I said mostly^^)
The strange thing is really: While I was a DBSK fan, I didn't realize any negative comments about them, or about Antifans (until the poison incident). It was as if DBSK doesn't even have Antifans, and when I am a fan of group or singer: I tend to want to know every detail and information about them^^" At least Korean singer/groups. So it was strange that I didn't come across some Antifans. It happens everyday with HOT.
I wrote that on shenyuepop.com too, once: Why do Cassies hurt celebrities, who DBSK are fans of or were really friendly during shows? When Yunho and Woohyuk were on a show together, they interacted a lot together, danced together and it was really obvious how much Yunho admired him and Cassies still hate them. I really don't get them-.-
Thx for comment. Welcome on DTH, by the way, I saw you there as a member^^

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3. Nocturne Prince - August 16, 2009

Why just great me today? I’ve been DTH member for 8 months~~ Hehehe~~~

About WooHyuk, it’s really obvious that he was sick, he needed to undergo the operation~~ so I don’t think I can say it was a scandal~ The thing is he’s in army now~ He’s doing the service~ About NamGyuri~ Well, it was Tony’s first rumor after 11-12 years in music industry~ It wasn’t bad rumor though ^^;, HeeJun’s music~ Is that even a rumor?? ^^

Talking about JaeWon, I became mad. Not with him but with that girl~~ That girl really ruined his innocent image!!!

I mean, if from you said was considered as scandals, for 13 years in music industry, were those just so little? comparing to now days artist??

Seriously, I need some proof that H.O.T has the most antis (I mean it~~) Everyday? Where? Please let me know~~

DBSG fans said they (god) were gay?? Can’t they think about the coupling they make. Even they made a forum for the couples. OMG~!!

I might be wrong but I feel those DBSG’s fans who were bad toward WooHyuk are international fans. I watched SBS Love Concert 2005, WooHyuk and DBSG performed there, almost the audiences were cassies-red balloon, there were white, orange, blue but not much, it was almost covered with red. But you know what, they cheered. They cheered for WooHyuk from the start till the last second he performed. Same with WooHyuk’s fans, they cheered for DBSG.

Have You ever heard that DBSG’s fan pre-ordered WooHyuk’s ticket concert but didn’t come even didn’t pay? That hurts~

You know what, WooHyuk is great dancer, no wonder, maybe Cassies don’t like it cause they think YunHo was the best, that’s why they hate WooHyuk~ Just a thought tho~~

Yeah, I can see YunHo has the respect for WooHyuk~ It makes me want to watch Love Letter~ Hehehe~~~

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4. shining_ice89 - August 16, 2009

H.O.T have antifans? O.o I knew that they had received threats from the past but I didn’t know they were that serious. I like them a long time ago but since it about 8 years, I felt bad I can’t remember their songs. I just remember Kangta’s =) oldies? 20 is considered old? That’s shocking..

Seriously, H.O.T’s the legend in K-pop, together with Shinwa. They are the role models for juniors like DBSK and SuJu. DBSK respected H.O.T and Shinwa a lot, why can’t Cassies do that?

I always thought Heejun and Kangta are born in the same year and Woohyuk earlier. Now that Heejun had passed his military training, I miss Kangta and Woohyuk even more.

I am not really SuJu’s fan, but I felt bad when Heechul received comments like “you should have died” and “too bad you didn’t die” when he was in the accident last year (?). Come to think about it, he was the only one who dare to scold the antis when Yunho was poisoned. Why would people just curse him? I really don’t understand their brain’s mechanism.

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5. kanahagino - August 16, 2009

@shining_ice89: It’s a good thing Heechul spoke up, finally! For me he got a lot of sympathy points.
Like I said: Cassies are immature and crazy: Teenagers are considered old now, very interesting -.- They think H.O.T fans are all 40, it seems *rolls eyes* And how old are they, in this case? 7?
All HOT members are in the military except Heejun T_T I miss them too. But I miss Tony too and Jaewon just went ot military all of a sudden.
I suddenly remembered another reason an Antifan of HOT said…: “Is that music? They’re just screaming the lyrics out!!!”
There were screaming in 4 songs o_o This person apparently didn’t bother to listen to other HOT songs, but just one. 4 songs with a bit screaming in 5 albums -.- and Antifans think it’s all the same. Antifans really don’t bother to know more about the person they hate^^” They were popular because, and that’s just my thinking, they sang non-violence, peace songs. Nowadays the only thing you hear, is mostly songs about love, women etc. Not bad, but that’s not everything in life^^”

@Nocturne Prince: Not rumors but scandals. Tony’s “girlfriend” rumor was already like a scandal. Same with the others.
Heejun; Not exactly his music, but I bet you heard, how they hated how he did different music from the other members, bashed him and then reporters were saying bad things about him, quoted him wrong, in this case making him bad for all his fans and even Kim Gura said some pretty bad things to him (apologized later and they’re friends now, so I heard). Heejun really worked hard to get the misunderstandings right and talked personally with all the Antfans. So his Antifan number decreased by a lot.

The prove….. Well like I said: It’s not up-to-date. But just type in google “Anti fans Woo hyuk” for example and the first website is a list with the number of Antifans. Woo hyuk’s Antifans even surpassed DBSK’s, but like I said it’s not up-to-date O_O

And no: DBSK fans didn’t say they were gay: But they are on the first place, because there was a “gay scandal” between the two GOD members XDD like with Kangta and Vanness.
I don’t remember the exact details: But they were in a place, where mostly gays are (I heard) and they were holding hands, but they didn’t know it was such a place, so a reporter saw them and made big news out of that XDD The clip where they said that was very funny, because they were really embarrassed about it.

I’ve heard about the incident with Woohyuk’s concert, I put that on the DBSK post. ^^
And H.O.T members had a lot more rumors (well it depends who) Heejun, so I’ve heard had a scandal during his HOT times. It was quite a tragedy, because someone killed herself I think… I really don’t remember it that clearly (where all are the HOT websites T_T Come back to us~~)
And because of the Jaewon scandal: Don’t say that, I mean I support Jaewon, but we shouldn’t jugde either of them. We don’t know anything about this case, so I guess we should just keep quiet about it. Well I personally did that, even though I still kind of protected him, when people said he’s a crazy rapist and should go to jail etc.
I just said to them, that nothings known yet and that reporters often quote wrong or are writing some wrong things to make things more interesting.
Needless to say, I was ignored and the bashing continued^^”
But it still made me a bit mad, how everyone said, that she was paid to keep quiet… *sigh*

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6. Nocturne Prince - August 16, 2009

Don’t trust that~ And yeah it was an old data and there has no proof. It was posted tho at DTH. No, they don’t have the proof~ I mean, who gathered the data that he has the most anti~ I type like what you said but it gave me nothing -_-

My bad, kinda misunderstood about the gay thing~ ^^;

Scandals or rumors~ They still can’t give any good reason to hate them, or maybe I haven’t found it. I really wish you can share with me any article about this. I really want to know~

H.O.T that I know always have the clean image also their songs with social issue theme made them even more special so I’m really curious about another scandal or rumour that I can consider as bad one~

About JaeWon, I ever complained about it on my own blog (spilled out all my anger toward her), so to repeat it again kinda uh~~~ my nerve~, so yeah, let’s get over it~

Do you have any copies of article of the bad rumor or web address? I really want to make sure with everything I heard, so please share it~ Thanks~!

Anyway, I still think that H.O.T’s fans are the best~! ^^ Along with H.O.T~ Hahaha~~

^^;;

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7. shining_ice89 - August 17, 2009

Sad to hear people calling me old T.T (as if.. blek XD)

I start to like Heechul more and more. He’s really straightforward.

By the way, is Jaewon the one who was missing from military camps? I really confuse all the artists =(

Kangta and Vaness =.=lll Who’s so creative to think of that pair?

Well, maybe he did rape her and pay her money. It is equally possible that she purposely did it then blackmail him. We are not the investigators, just let the police do their job and we wait for the result. Don’t need to jump into conclusion that fast and started meaningless bashing online. A lil’ too excited?

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8. kanahagino - August 17, 2009

Nocturne Prince: They searched Antifan websites on naver, so I don’t know if it’s official, because I’m not korean. Who knows? Maybe most people were really registered on Woohyuk’s Antifan website? I don’t know^^” But I know that Antifans can be pretty strange when they’re giving out prices for the person who makes the face of the celebrity they hate, the ugliest.^^”

Nope, I didn’t write it clearly, I’m still learning english, so I still don’t know how to express myself in english.

Which articles do you mean? About what exactly? I lost the track of it^^”
It depends though: Like I said: Most HOT websites have closed down, so all I have are my memories about it (argh, I want the websites back again T_T)

shining_ice89: You’re not old:) Ignore them!
Heechul is very straightforward. He reminds me of Dongwan from Shinhwa in this one. He can be strange and crazy and very direct. I still can’t believe that he moaned in a show when a woman said, she looked in the mirror after she showered (a bit gross, but so direct XDD)
Or when he protected his fellow member Minwoo from celebrity Amy, when she badmouthed him. Great how he stood up for his friend and brother! And his diary entries… How he wrote, that a man said he could take good pictures (since he loves to photograph) on this place, and when he went there, he was attacked by two dogs, when he wanted to take pics and he needed to escape from them XD In my opinion, he’s as strange as Eric and Junjin (but Eric is forever 4D)

Like I said about Kangta and Vanness: Not exactly creative, because Kangta himself said in a clip that he loves him *lol* “I’m your… boyfriend.” Vanness: “Nononono, that’s not true!” “I love you” Vanness: “No brokeback in here!”
I loled so hard in this clip. And Kangta said,, although a bit strange for me, how he wouldn’t care to appear in a gay movie… o_o HOT fans were shocked about the fact that he wanted to marry a women (because we didn’t even know he had a girlfriend XD) He seemed ot make plans to marry her, but he went to the military, and she couldn’t wait that long, it said.

I never heard that Jaewon is missing from military camps. O_o He just went to the military, maybe it’s another one…?
And yes, I agree about this case. But Antifans of HOT were very fast to jump into conclusions and bashed him as much as they could^^”

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9. Nocturne Prince - August 18, 2009

The one who’s missing from army is the member of NRG (if i’m not wrong remember), hope he’s just fine somewhere~

Yeah, the article you read on the closed website. I thought you save any copy. I think you just read it then~ ^^;

Anyway, I found something~ Antifan Club on Daum

Super Junior – http://cafe.daum.net/tbwnRjwu
DBSK – http://cafe.daum.net/dongbangcafe <- thin isn't anti cafe I think
DBSK Anti Cafe #2 – http://cafe.daum.net/killdongbang
F.T Island – http://cafe.daum.net/tvo33
SNSD – http://cafe.daum.net/girlsanti
Nam Gyu Ri (SeeYa) – http://cafe.daum.net/skarbfldksxl
CSJG "The Grace" – http://cafe.daum.net/star269
LeeHyori – http://cafe.daum.net/xxxhyori
SS501 – http://cafe.daum.net/SS501anti
Big Bang – http://cafe.daum.net/YGBB
Chae Yeon – http://cafe.daum.net/chaeyeonmichin
Battle – http://cafe.daum.net/battleKIN <- it's not anti I think

No H.O.T or any member~~ Yay~!! ^-^ At least they don't spend their time hating H.O.T members and H.O.T members are exactly not really hated~~

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10. shining_ice89 - August 18, 2009

I normally ignore people that call me old

Oh, I had been seeing this “4D character” a lot lately but I still get it’s real meaning. Can you please explain?

Yer~ that’s practically a joke.. How can that turn into a believable scandal? LOL

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11. kanahagino - August 18, 2009

shining_ice89: 4D character means that this person lives in a different world or has his own little world. You can just say that he’s/she’s strange, doesn’t think like a normal person would or whatever^^

Reporters take everything serious! ^^ For celebrity to do something like that is not common after all XD Funny how they didn’t make a story about it, when Kangta said he was kissed by a male celebrity (and even said his name!) on the mouth XD Was it once or twice… I don’t remember, but he said this guy was drunk and MC Yoo even said he kissed him too (I think it was MC Yoo) and said he kisses everyone, when he’s drunk *lol*

Nocturne Prince: I don’t have a copy, sorry T_T I’m still angry that they have closed the websites ;_; I think it was because of the huge spam on the websites, which was posted recently (hundred of sites, it was quite annoying and illegal, but I’ll miss the news and fanfics ;_;)
Thx for the links! “killdongbang” *lol* Sounds somewhat funny (even though it isn’t)
I wish they wouldn’t waste their time hating H.O.T members^^” I still see so many international Antifans, it really isn’t funny anymore, because I see it only in HOT videos or news and not that much with others.

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12. shining_ice89 - August 19, 2009

oh! thanks for the info.. I had been wondering about it for a long time. =)

But reporters tend to make stories of idols more than comedians or MCs. kissing everyone when he’s drunk? haha.. very MC Yoo’s character..

Nocturne Prince, thanks for the info~

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13. kanahagino - August 19, 2009

Nono, you misunderstood me, @shining_ice89: The guy Kangta meant, kissed even MC Yoo. So MC Yoo was kissed by this guy.

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14. shining_ice89 - August 20, 2009

oh~ i get it the wrong way *blush*

it suits Kangta’s personality equally.. =)